6/11/08

Things that I observed at the SBC in Indy

Hey yall, I'm typing from a computer in my hotel in Indy at this moment. I just enjoyed a delicious meal at a local eatery. There's no sweet tea up here, though. We need to teach these people up here something.

Now, I will give you a short little list with a few observations about what happened in Indy at the SBC. The short version is that it was great, inspiring, and a lot of good was done. I'm glad that I came, and I'm glad that I brought my wife with me. I'm always glad to be near my wife.

But, here's my list:

1. Many, many, young people were here. I was pleasantly shocked and amazed and thrilled to see so many young people here. I mean, after hearing all the Negative Nellies and Sour Sam's out there talk about how young people don't come to the convention anymore, I was delightfully amazed to see all the twenty-somethings and thirty-somethings in attendance. It was incredible to look to my left and to my right and there was just a sea of young people. I thought that maybe it was just my section.....that maybe all the young people just wanted to be near Volfan007. So, I looked at the sections near me on both sides, and there was lots of young people in each section. And, this was true every time I went to the convention hall. Halelujah!

2. It was a great joy to see old friends and to meet some of the blogging folks that I had not met before. I met Peter Lumpkins....what a delight. I also met Scott Gordon in person...what a great guy. I met Chadwick Ivester and his very sweet, nice wife. She helps Chad ole boy to be more acceptable and liked! :) I met Dr. Nathan Finn, and Robbie Sagers, and many, many more people. And, I, of course, saw all the one's I already know....Bart, Wes, Tim Rogers and family, Tim G., Robin and wife, and John Mann and his wife, and so many, many more. Too many to name. It was great to see all of these people as well as some old friends that aint into blogging.

3. I was invited to the IMB Dinner. The food was too fancy for me. There was no cornbread, no pork chops, no nothing like that. It was....well...not real good. We heard some great things about the IMB and the work going on there. But, one thing that looked political. J.D. Grear was the main speaker...the man who was instrumental in the petition against the new IMB policies about PPL and baptism. Nothing against J.D. Grear, but this really appeared to be a political move.

4. I was talking to a missionary about the morale of the missionaries in her area. She said that it was great. I asked was there any upsetness about any IMB policies, and she answered no. And, I asked her was anyone quitting due to low morale or due to policies, and she answered in the negative again; and then, she looked at me like, "what in the world would you even be asking these type questions for, because every things fine." I was glad to hear from a missionary on furlough, who had just come home. It was good to hear from someone without an agenda.

5. Some knucklehead kept giving a second to every motion that was presented...even to the motions that were so...well...not necessary....motions that should have died without a second. But, he just kept yelling, "Second!" as if he were scared that the people making the motions might have their feelings hurt if their motion died without a second. I wish that he had choked on a gnat on a couple of the motions, but he didn't. He just kept yelling, "Second!"

6. The Executive Committee did good in rejecting the attempt of some to have some sort of SBC Sex Offender Registry. Dr. Morris Chapman made the correct, obvious statement that we already have Sex Offender Registry and the govt. pays for it.

7. Wild Bill Stafford hit a home run during the Pastors Conference. He preached. We heard many good sermons, and we heard a lot of good singing. Bill Stafford brought it though, as he always does.

8. Another highlight of the SBC was the showing of the premiere "Fireproof" movie to the SBC crowd. This is a tremendous movie. It's every bit as good as "Facing the Giants," if not better. When this movie comes out in Sept. run to it...do not walk...run to it. Encourage every one of your friends and Church members to go and see it. This movie will bless your socks off.

Well, I hope you all enjoyed my little list, and if you have questions about the SBC, please feel free to ask.

26 comments:

Scott Gordon said...

David,

I enjoyed meeting you and many of the guys you mentioned as well...

The Outback Steakhouse somewhere on the east side of Indy actually had SWEET tea!

Well, I'll be seein' ya' 'round Blogtown!

SOLA GRATIA!
"5-er"

chadwick said...

david,

I kept looking for you at the Founders' Breakfast . . . but thankfully the Lord Providentially lead us to cross paths in the SkyWalk! ;)

Your wife is as sweet as you are funny!!!!

I enjoyed meeting you face to face!!!

chadwick

Bill said...

David: You had to go and bring up controversy didn't you? You couldn't let it go, could you? Facing the Giants was an awful movie.

I don't want to hijack this thread but post about the movie sometime and we can argue about it.

selahV said...

Volfie...this is great! I love hearing your thoughts on Indy Events. Really liked your conversation with the Missionary on Furlough. Glad you didn't tell her to wise up and start reading the blogs. LOL.
Glad to hear the young and not so restless were there in Indy.
I swear, one of these days, I'm gonna get to go to a convention. This one sounds like it was superb!

So Peter was a "delight", huh? You didn't get to talk long, did you? :) LOL selahV

tguthrie@eklundstewardship.com said...

David,
It was a joy! Hope your eating situation is already improving!

:)

Bill Poore said...

David,
When Chadwick shared about meeting you and your wife,I was glad that you didn't meet me at the WMU display at 2 on Mon.
Just as King David showed kindness to Mephibosheth for Johanthan's sake,so have I showed kindness to you for your wife's sake.
hottub(Doc.Holiday).

volfan007 said...

Scott,

It was a joy to meet you and spend time with you.

Chadwick,

Somehow I missed the Founder's breakfast. Rats. Maybe next year?
Hey, your wife is really a nice person. And, I hear that you used to be a rodeo guy?

Bill,

Facing the Giants is probably the best movie to ever come down the pike. Fireproof is just as good, and maybe even better. Anyone who says different just aint right.

Selah,

This years SBC was probably the best one ever. The Lord really did a work in my heart thru all that took place. I am a changed man. I want to win souls now more than ever. I want the Lord to give me more tears and brokeness. I want to live more for Jesus. This years convention was used by God in a great way in my life.

Tim G.,

It's always good to see you. My eating situation has improved greatly. I just ate a Sonic cheeseburger and had a Oreo Cookie Blast. They hit the spot.

Bill Poore,

I waited at the WMU desk on Monday until they nearly made me a member. I was ready, Dude. Chadwick can back me up that I was loaded for bear and ready to rumble. You really need to ask Chadwick about the ferociousness of my demeanor.

:)

David

Bill said...

Vol: Facing the Giants

Production quality from non-professionals = Surprisingly excellent.

Sincerity and motivation of the people behind the movie = Absolutely unquestioned.

Presentation of the Gospel = Very Good

Presentation of the results of the Gospel = Absolutely unrealistic and (unintentionally) misleading.

I wanted to send this to your email but couldn't find it.

volfan007 said...

Bill,

Please explain what you mean by this:

"Presentation of the results of the Gospel = Absolutely unrealistic and (unintentionally) misleading."

David

Bill said...

David: Sure. The message of FTG, unintentional or not, is:

"Come to Christ and all your problems will go away"

I mean, c'mon. Every problem the protagonists were facing in that movie were resolved positively. The football, the relationships, the vehicle, the barrenness, all the way down to finding the rat. I can't think of a single obstacle or problem that wasn't fixed by the end of the movie, topped off by more children and more championships.

Many, many Christians are leading desperate and depressed lives because they think God owes them some kind of "fix" for all of their problems and it hasn't happened, when what they really need is the grace and strength to endure. Even the most vibrant and faithful Christians have problems and difficulties that don't get solved in this lifetime. It is that the I find unrealistic and a little dangerous in the movie.

God is not a genie who jumps into action when we figure out how to rub the bottle the right way.

I really didn't want to hijack the thread, but as long as I'm doing it,

Iced tea should always be unsweetened.

sbc pastor said...

David,

It was good visiting with you again. God bless!!!

In Christ,
Jeremy

volfan007 said...

Bill,

It was still a great movie, and it showed people how to trust in the Lord. God can work things out, even when things look very bleak. It's good to see God work things out for His glory, as well as giving us strength to go thru the hard times. I've been to dark places many times in my life, and the Lord has always come thru for me. He has delivered me many, many times.

I think that you'll enjoy the next movie more. It's about a marriage that's falling apart. It's good.

Jeremy,

It was great seeing you, too.


David

Joe W. said...

David,

It was pretty funny when my wife tried to order sweet tea, and the waiter said... "Honey, you are north of the mason-dixon." She just looked at him like... "So?" It was a priceless moment for sure.

This was our first convention, and I came away feeling much the way you did. I am also happy to say that I too saw many young people other than my wife and I (32 is still young, right?)

On a side note... my 2 daughters absolutley loved the child care. They spent many hours filling us in on all the activities.

Indy was an event I won't soon forget. Sharing conversations with Dr. Merritt, Dr. Vines, Dr. Hunt, Dr. Patterson, and especially Junior Hill. Oh yea... and Wade Burleson. I got the opportunity to speak briefly with Pastor Burleson after the nomination speeches. I told him that this was my first convention, and that he had a large part in me being in Indy (TRUE).

Overall... the spirit of the meeting was great, the city enjoyable, the discussions fun, and the elections decisive...

volfan007 said...

Joe W.,

I'm glad that you were able to attend. It was truly a blessing to be there.

BTW, where in TN do you live?

David

ruralchurch said...

Hey there,
I have enjoyed reading through your blog. I enjoyed your take on the convention. I didn't get to go. I noticed that you are a fellow west tennesse pastor. I am in Cottage Grove TN. I noticed that we share a passion for corn bread and sweet tea.

Joe W. said...

David,

I live in southeast TN in the city of Cleveland... about 20 minutes north of Chattanooga.

volfan007 said...

Rural,

God bless you, Brother. I'm truly glad that you sat down on the front porch for a while to talk to me. I hope that the rocking chair was to your liking. And yes, I live in W. TN....in Greenfield.


Joe W.,

My daughters boyfriend is from near where you live. He's from Haletown, near Jasper.

David

Debbie Kaufman said...

David: Question. If there were so many young people there as you claim, why does Ed Stetzer say differently in his blog on the last two posts? BTW 40's and 50's would not qualify as being "young", although that to me would be a compliment. :)

volfan007 said...

Debbie,

I dont know what Ed Stetzer is saying, but I was there. I saw them. So did many other people.

I'm telling you, from my observations, that there were many 20-somethings and 30-somethings at the convention. I also saw a lot of children there.

Now, I dont know where Ed is getting his observations, but the young crowd was there. Like I said before, I did ask several of the young crowd did they fill out the survey that's done every year at the SBC to see who came, and who spent how much money, etc.; and the young ones I asked said that they did not fill out the forms and turn them in. It's been my experience that the older crowd is more apt to do this, because they've been told, and believe, that it will help the SBC when going to different cities for our leaders to have this info.

David

Joe W. said...

David and Debbie,

I must confess... neither my wife nor I filled out or turned in said survey. Too distracted I guess!

The SBC should probably get that info when we sign up online or in person if they really want it. That sure would be easier, save time, save paper, and save money.

volfan007 said...

Joe W.,

Good observation. Your answer to the survey dilemma should be noted by the powers that be in the SBC. And yes, that last line did rhyme.

David

Debbie Kaufman said...

David: Ed Stetzer is a very intelligent guy who knows his business, he was at the Convention also. I'm sure he went by more than just a survey. I'm sure he could see as well or had other methods. I tend to believe him. I'm not alone. It was low enough that he wrote not one but two posts about it.

I think you and a few(very few) others had better open your eyes to the fact that not all is well in Denmark.

volfan007 said...

Debbie,

I will try to tell all the young Pastors and their wives at next years meeting in Louisville that they shouldnt be there.

David

ps. The couple of times that I saw Ed Stetzer at the SBC, he was talking to large groups of...gulp...shall I say it... young Ministers.

Debbie Kaufman said...

David: You can believe whatever you want to believe, but are you not the one who said to "trust the leaders". Johnny Hunt, Frank Page, and others see we are declining and in the young pastors as well. It seems you would rather hold on to what you want to see or want others to see rather than face facts. It's hard to have a conversation with odds like that. So I guess I'm done.

If you didn't know that what I am saying is true deep down inside, I don't believe you would be trying to convince others or yourself as you have. Problem: I'm not convinced, the SBC isn't convinced as the tone of the convention this year said they know otherwise.

Scott Gordon said...

David,

I'm not sure our beloved Deborah will be happy unless she has someone like you to try to belittle.

Debbie,

I am not sure you can ever be happy unless you show up here, at Peter's place, or SBC Today and try to belittle or disparage those with whom you disagree. (I repeated myself so as to not be accused of talking behind anyone's back.)

All (& I actually mean all),

I just finished listening to Dr. Mohler's interview with Dr. Stetzer on Dr. Mohler's radio program. Let me say that it was the most sane I've heard Ed sound in a long time (you're welcome, Ed ;-) )! I certainly appreciate the concerns raised, but I also was at Indy (maybe you should show up for yourself next year, too, Debbie) and saw what David saw...a well-blended mix of messengers. Now many of the younger ones (20s - early 40s) were not wearing sandals and gotees...so I guess not enough of the right type of younger pastors were present! Gee, David, I 'guess' you were wrong after all!
:-D

SOLA GRATIA!

volfan007 said...

Scott,

:)

The statement about the goatees was funny. Also, coloring the hair, or frosting it, or whatever seems to be a "cool" thing to do right now. You know, so that a persons hair is two different colors. I did see some young pastors with the two toned hair deal.

David